In Malaysia, there are two coffee ‘movements’ that are ever in tension—the third-wave coffee movement, represented by the hipster cafes popping up all over the country, and the older, more nostalgic kopitiams, that has charmed local Malaysians for decades with super dark roast kopi and kopi-o.

To consolidate these two disparate coffee cultures, I invited Skye Lin onto the show. He’s a barista and co-founder of BEAM, a cafe that’s blurring the lines between the classic and contemporary coffee movements in our homeland.